your not, but were i don't find it attractive i don't find it gross either.
I like practical character design, so i don't really care much for sex appeal on a character, so when i see stuff like this i just think "really people...", because as a man who values practicality in character design, there is no good reason to give a character breasts so big they reach longer than her arms. I do wish we had less fetish heavy stuff on this site, but whatcha' gonna do, they aren't breaking any rules or hurting anyone, like it or not this stuff is here to stay, and to this guy's defense at least he coming up with his own characters instead of turning otherwise innocent pre-existing characters into fetish fodder (the only time i ever have a real problem with it).
i'm personally not sure why anyone thinks this stuff is "gross", but then again I've seen worse... far, far worse...
I think I understand what you are trying to get at, but I'm not sure using "practical" as the descriptor is the most accurate term.
I say this because, even if an artist were to design characters based completely off of actual people it would be incredibly easy to have a character design that is "impractical." For example -- avoiding more accurate real life parallels to this character, and the effect of different art styles -- were he to design a character with no arms or one that is blind or even a quadriplegic that character would most certainly be "impractical." Does that mean the character design is bad? No. A good artist can use flaws in the design of a character to help tell a story or even use it for potential character development as a challenge for that character to overcome. This usually gives them more personality visually and in a narrative. In fact, zdemian has done exactly that with this character here in this particular comic.
by "practical" i mean... i guess i could say designed in a way where if they have a physical weakness/handicap, their design wouldn't feed directly into it in a way that would make it look like the author/artist was just being mean. here, this lady's figure makes it impossible to lift her torso back up, pretty much freezing her in that position until she falls over like an idiot or someone helps her up and then laughs at what was probably a terrible experience for her... or both, cruel isn't it, but think how often does that happen to her? in a realistic setting doing something as simple as tying her shoes or picking something up would be excruciatingly time consuming having to circumvent just bending down and finishing the task at the risk of getting suck bent over. also... i'd assume she wouldn't see low placed items until after her feet or shins got a painfully good feel of it.
the other part of what i mean by "practical" can be summed up in this quote from the web-comic Spinnerette "You have a bullet-proof fabric, and you want to cut a hole in it right over your heart?! Are you insane?", essentially sacrificing making sense, for sex appeal. This comic only does this with the fact that again, there is no good reason to give a character breasts so big they reach longer than her arms.
I think the mistake you're making is automatically assuming having such breasts is against the character's will. People are all different, some follow the most logical choices, others just do what they want. Take a look around, people do all sorts of strange things to their bodies for whatever reasons they have, and many are certainly not practical. Now, in the world of this comic, I admit the existence of humungous breasts, subsequently, there will be people who will purposefully get humungous breasts.
Of course, there are pros and cons to everything, and the owner of such breasts will certainly encounter inconveniences due to them. As you noted, difficulty moving, obstruction, etc. However, not every inconvenience is such a harrowing experience as you seem to imply. If you've ever worked out, trying an exercise well above your fitness level, you may have gotten stuck and fallen down like an idiot, as you put it. It may be silly or embarrassing, but for myself, it's no traumatic experience.
The quote from Spinerrette actually highlights what I've already stated; some people are innately impractical, such as a superhero wanting to look good rather than be as fully protected as possible.
no, i'm over-analyzing and assuming everything in this comics universe is 100% realistic to try and explain what i mean by "practical" (which i think i may be failing at a little). I understand that this fetish, like most unorthodox fetishes, is not meant to be taken seriously. Take vore for example, some people find being eaten alive as the sexiest thing ever, but as soon as you add logic it then falls somewhere into "you fail biology, forever" and completely inhumane torture.
the part where i said "make it look like the author/artist was just being mean." is again, under the assumption of 100% realism. without sacrificing realism the super sudden size change could only be done by an on purpose plot-hole which can only be done by the author/artist (any realistic explanation would give her time get used to the weight, ergo no comic), making it a "cause i said so" moment of cruelty, all without truly losing any realism... just credibility.
I see where my comment could be taken as an insult to you, and i apologize if i have (you can make any storyteller look like jerk by over-analyzing there work) and i feel confident in assuming you weren't thinking "i want to be a complete ass to my character" while drawing this up and although I'm not a fan of your, ahem, Heavy use of the fetish, it is a very nice looking comic. I hate it when i say something the sounds mean (or just is mean, but in a heat-of-the-moment way) and being like "sh*t, i didn't mean that"... i don't want to be that guy who's a jerk over the internet because he can.
As a last note: are you implying that i don't even lift
intentionally insulting someone over the internet is one of the most low and cowardly things one can do, it also never really accomplishes anything either. I don't like the excuse of "it's over the internet" to treat people like crap when you wouldn't do it in person. It's a shame that the internet can so easily bring out the worst in people.
Personally, i don't really get people that rage over this stuff. he's not insulting anyone, hurting anything, or even using characters that aren't 100% his own. the only time i ever understand the rage is when someone turns an other-wise innocent and/or respected character into a shameless sex object and even then I've never found it hard to just ignore it and keep scrolling.
I'm sure you're not. I mean, there's a majority of art all over DA that's got at least SOMEWHAT more natural proportions than this. Obviously it's catering to somebody. But I think most of those people either aren't bothered by the fact that other people exist with sexual interests that differ, sometimes drastically, from their own, or they know that voicing their own opinion won't stop it and honestly don't even have a good reason to try to change peoples kinks, so they don't spend the time looking at stuff they don't like to comment on how they don't like it. They just go look at something they DO like instead.
For some reason I feel like that was a shot towards me. But it was a legitimate question. I see all these pieces like this and scroll down through the comments to see if anyone has just been like "Dude...wtf?" but I very rarely do. It's enough to wonder if there could be something wrong with me.
I'm sorry if you felt like I was attacking you personally. I did my best not to be negative or antagonistic while trying to bring attention to the fact that your comment is kind of the kind of thing nobody wants to hear in this little corner of the internet, and is honestly just unproductive and won't get you anything but angry responses to 'mind your own business'. I tried to do that as neutrally and peacefully as possible, but it's hard to do because nobody on either side wants to feel like they're being lectured or scolded or whatever.
Now, there is NOTHING wrong with not liking this stuff, and it's completely understandable to do so. It's a majority preference for a reason. The only thing I would say is 'wrong' is that going out of your way to call it 'gross' kind of implies that you think that something IS wrong with liking it, and it's not okay to think or feel differently. Like I said before, nobody wants to be lectured or scolded or be told what they find attractive is wrong, especially if it has nothing to do with the person bringing it up, and isn't harming anyone or anything.
All I really want to ask is that you accept that people have aesthetic or sexual preferences that differ from the majority, sometimes drastically, and want to share it with people who have similar preferences, and to avoid criticizing it because you feel differently.
I did no criticism of the piece. The only thing I said was it seemed gross to me, in that sense it's just as offensive in the same way that someone calling this "hawt" and "sexeh" would make a woman with smaller breasts feel like they are unattractive, and there is much more of that going on here than me expressing my instant reaction and asking a legitimate question to the thread. I have no problem with people liking this type of thing, everyone has different preferences and it's not like I insinuated that people are wrong with liking this type of thing, I never called the fans of this stuff perverts or made fun of them for likign it, I expressed my reaction to the piece just as others on this thread have expressed their liking of it, just because my opinion is different than that of the thread doesn't mean I disrespect those people that enjoy it. When you post a work on an open forum like this, you better be prepared for people to express their dislike for that thing you posted. Now if they want a critique, the style is cute, and I like the sort of holographic thing they did, but all in all the piece is unattractive to me. That doesn't mean I expect everyone else to think it's unattractive, but I would like to know if there are others out there that feel the same way.
I don't deny that you weren't extreme or deliberately insulting in your opinion, which happens more often than not when someone who's not a fan of this stuff decides to comment. And I'm glad for that. But this community of expansion fetishists has gotten a lot of aggressively hateful attacks in the past, and still does, so I wanted to speak up before anybody else did because the community gets very defensive about it, and be as moderate as possible rather than let someone else upset you with a knee-jerk defensive response and leave you with a bad impression on the people who like this stuff.
I will reiterate, there are plenty of people who feel the same way and don't find this attractive. Probably like 9 out of 10 people at least, though many of them may just not care rather than find it outright unattractive. If it makes people with 'smaller' proportions(which would be like, EVERYBODY) feel unattractive, that sucks, but I don't think it's the art that's to blame, but the society that has made them so insecure about their bodies. A healthy culture would reinforce peoples' self-esteem and let them know that just because they see an example of some people liking something they aren't, they should still love their own bodies and know there are plenty of people out there who will love them just as much. NOBODY should be made to feel guilty for who they are, whether it's what they look like or what they like to look at.
I hope you don't go away from this with any sort of resentment or bitterness, especially none that I may have caused and I'd like to thank you for being polite in your questioning of our weird little corner of the internet.
I think it's kind of admirable that he didn't immediately go off on some childish, hate-filled rant like some people do. And for the record, despite how much they don't want it, some people NEED to be lectured sometimes.
I wasn't speaking about you, actually. I thought you were rather mature about the whole thing. I was merely voicing my opinion on some of the less mature individuals we sometimes encounter...anywhere, really.
Oh why thank you. I try to be as civil as possible. And yes, people can be quite aggressive it seems, but being that way doesn't really help anything, it just turns into this well.. loop of anger. I'm not trying to convert anyone, just taking a sort of... Litmus test to see if there are others who don't find this sort of thing appealing. But it seems I have unwillingly incited some insult, which wasn't my goal at all.